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good news. that's all we have tonight. greta is next to go on the record. we will see you back here with great conservative news tomorrow night. greta, take it away. >> this is a fox news alert. the irs executive who was head of the division targeting conservative groups is now running the obamacare office at the irs. abc political director rick klein reports us. abc news broke that story tonight. who is she? >> sarah hall ingram and she was in charge of the whole commission that takes care of the tax exempt groups. they are the ones overseeing the whole division in cincinnati that was targeting tea partyers. she was in charge of it during the entire period. she's been in the new job about a week. the guy who took her place in that job, joseph grant, he's actually -- they announced his resignation today. he would be retiring in a couple weeks anyway and looks like he's
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taking the fall for something that happened on his watch. >> he was only there eight days and he's shoved out the door. this woman, now her job is very controversial, obviously under the spotlight with those groups being targeted. but now this other job, what's the other job she has being in charge of obamacare? >> obamacare has a lot of tax implications and the irs has opened up a new office just to make sure the implementation goes smoothly. she's heading that up. republicans are really up in arms. the statement from mitch mcconnell, stunning, just stunning. i think they are trying to die jest is right now. the suggestion politics would be involved in obamacare the same way they were on the tea party, there's a lot of credibility problems for the administration. >> you couldn't make this up. if you said to me come up with the craziest story, this would be so far beyond what you think would be possible.
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>> that's right. the white house is playing damage control on all fronts on the irs story. these are sort of low to medium level appointments inside the irs agency. it isn't something they are monitoring closely but it will mean renewed scrutiny on everything around the obama healthcare law. i think there will be a big effort in congress to strip the irs of any powers in enforcing obamacare. >> they have an unpopular administration -- or the irs. nobody has ever liked the irs. and now you have obamacare, which a lot of people don't like, which is now being pretty much implemented, mostly hhs and the irs so it couldn't be more distasteful to a lot of american people. >> that's right. congress is going to be looking at a couple different things here in terms of what officials were aware of what was going on. i know they are going to have questions for ms. ingram. they will also look at people at the top of the agency and the bottom of the agency. line workers in cincinnati, as well as the folks in washington, the leadership of the irs.
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they will all be put through a lot of tough questions in congress in the coming weeks. >> starting tomorrow will be the first hearing? the. >> that's right. first hearing tomorrow from the acting commissioner. and it was announced yesterday he tendered his resignation, and previous commissioner shulman who was in place when it actually happened around the time of the election. that will be the first round and it will roll into next week. there's no sign of this thing getting smaller. you have people coming out i was audited too, worried about political considerations. this is getting bigger. >> if this were a prosecutor lobbing at the case, you start at the bottom. the first people i would interview on this, i would interview all the people in cincinnati. i would not go for these big names until much farther down in the investigation. it's interesting they are doing what i think is backwards of most investigations. >> they are never going to do both at the same time. the big names, a lot of those folks were before congress and testifying about that and if they were untruthful in any way or only partially truthful,
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that's a big target on their back. anyone who knew about it in washington, they are under additional scrutiny. tough for them because it wasn't a little local rogue office in cincinnati that had a bad idea being executed. if it had any kind of political interference from washington, that makes it a bigger deal. >> is there any evidence that the white house new about this prior to when the president said he heard about it in the media? >> no, there's not. >> except the courthouse counsel got a tipoff an investigation is being done. >> that's right. a couple weeks ago. i don't know what part of the white house office was informed about it but they knew about it a few weeks ago but only because the investigation was ending. there hasn't been anything that's linked it up through the white house right now. jay carney made is explicit nobody in the white house knew about it. the investigation is just getting underway. >> it must be wild at the irs tonight. >> wild times indeed. >> abc got that story first. thank you. and tonight, one
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congressman is taking action to attempt to take the irs out of healthcare. congressman tom price introducing legislation that would prevent the irs from implementing obamacare. good to see you, sir. >> yes. >> i like to add you are a doctor when we do the healthcare. your bill is called keep the irs out of your healthcare act of 2013. >> hr2009 and two quick pages and it says the secretary or treasure or any may not implement or enforce any provision of the healthcare law. what we've seen so far the last few days is not just the irs was targeting groups, it asked for donors, it got down to individuals and asked forced individual american level. what they were asked to do is enforce the individual mandates. that's every american. the last place we need to have that charged with is with the irs. >> is this retaliation for the
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irs scandal, for lack of a better word? is that what provoked your bill? >> no. i believe the healthcare law is wrong from healthcare standpoint. but what i hear from my constituents, the american people no longer trust the federal government and they don't trust the internal revenue services with their own taxes, let alone their healthcare. they are saying, look, you have to stop these folks. >>dy a little research. some wonder why is the irs in this and not hhs. there are different penalties and there are 50 tax provisions, at least 50 that require irs to implement so they are deeply embedded in the execution of healthcare. >> they, indeed and also i am bedded in determining if you or i or any american has complied with the individual mandate
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coverage. that goes into effect next year. >> irs looking to hire more agents to emily meant this. do they need money from you on capitol hill? will they get it? >> no. it's a dangerous prospect to put the irs in our healthcare. the last thing we want them in something as personal as our healthcare. >> you have the bill to get the irs out of the healthcare. they won't get the funding from capitol hill to end run you, new fund to go do it so they won't get that. so intimately involved in the execution of healthcare. what happens to obamacare if you are successful? >> well, if we are successful, then the bill is repealed, the law is repealed and we move in the direction of patient centered healthcare which we've talked about repeatedly. >> repealed because they can't implement it? >> we would hope it would be repealed because it's a bad law. bad for quality healthcare in this country. this law will fall on its own
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weight. you have the secretary of human health and services asking for, begging for, urging private companies to donate money so they can sign people up for the federal exchange. this doesn't work. doesn't work tore patients or doctors or likewise or employees either. >> there was a vote tonight. i think it was the 37th vote by the house of representatives to do something, either strip obamacare, either repeal it totally or strip it considerably. >> we voted today to repeal the whole bill entirely for just the third time. people say the 37th. we addressed other issues before. this was an important piece of legislation because there are 80 members of the house of representatives of that never voted on the healthcare law ever. this gave them the opportunity to say yes, it ought to stay in place, or no, we don't, and answer to the constituents. you see bipartisan concern and
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anxt about the overreach of the irs. >> the democrats, even leader pelosi came out horrified about what happened in ohio. but that's a far cry from wanting to sort of strip the irs of all of its ability to implement obamacare because that gets rid of obamacare. >> it may be but when they hear from their constituents, they are concerned what we are hearing through our phones and e-mails, their constituents are worried and fearful that the irs will be the administrative arm, the enforcement arm of the president's healthcare law and they won't stand for it. >> couldn't be a worse time to have the irs to come into the scandal because this is supposed to be implemented basically this october. >> october for the exchanges and january 1st for the individual mandates. >> which they police >> the irs accomplices. this is so important. it couldn't be worse timing.
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but the president needs to come clean on all these issues. he needs to be honest with the american people and say when did he know about the irs? >> you don't believe him? he said the other day the first he knew about it was in news reports the other day u don't believe it? >> it remains an open office. if he didn't know, who in his administration did know about it? who in the irs -- >> suppose the secretary treasure heard about it a month ago and didn't tell the press, does that make a difference? >> it does make a difference to talk about the ability of the secretary of treasury to recognize something that would be of such great concern are the american people. and over the irs. thank you. >> thanks, greta. >> thank you, sir. now to the hot button issue on gretawire.com. should the irs in any way be part of the implementation of obamacare? yes, it makes sense for the irs to do it, or, no, eats
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outrageous to have the irs within a million miles of obamacare. go to gretawire.com and vote in our poll. now the tea party all stirred up and fighting back against the irs. gathering on capitol hill and slamming the irs and the obama administration for targeting their group. and the tea partyers, they aren't alone. >> nothing dissolves the bonds between the people and their government like the arrogance of power here in washington. >> the irs, those are three scary initials for most people. >> that's what the american people are seeing today from the obama administration. remarkable. >> barack obama is the architect of the irs and its unfair, mean, political treatment of his political enemy. >> this is runaway government at its worst. who knows who they will target next. >> it's how obama operates. his fingerprints are all over it. >> one of the most disturb the stories i read on the irs is confidence taxpayer records were
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handed over to th co-chairman of president's presidential campaign in the middle of the campaign. >> i can assure you that i certainly did not know anything about the i.g. report before the i.g. report had been leaked through press -- through the press. >> someone needs to be held responsible. someone needs to be imprisoned, someone needs to be prosecuted. >> this is not just limited to the irs. this is a culture of intimidation. a willingness to play hardball politics against your political opponents. >> we need to remember this isn't just an act of a democratic administration attacking republicans this, is an act of a political ruling class in washington. regardless of political affiliation, targeting the american people. >> tea party caucus members senator mike lee joins us. nice to see you, senator. >> good to see you. >> tell me, sir, what happened
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to the with the rally and how many people showed up? essentially what was their beef? what was the problem? >> you know, i think we had about 50 members of congress between the house and the senate, and we showed up to express our outrage at what happened. our concern with the fact that we've got a government that's now so big, so powerful, so expensive and so vast that it can't adequately be supervised and as a result the american people are paying for it. not just in terms of their money but also in terms of their liberty and privacy and that's not okay. >> you have written an article, said it's not about character or competence, it is about the big government. that's where you lay all the blame for all this, in big government, right? >> yeah, that's right. this isn't about one particular person. it's not necessarily even about one particular party, although one party is in control of government right now and it's certainly to blame for what happened here. but this is bigger than that.
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when our federal government gets to be something that spends $4 trillion a year, it's unmanageable. this is one of the few moments i find myself agreeing with something david axelrod has said. he said yesterday that the federal government is just too vast for any one person, including the president of the united states, to be able to control. that means it's time to ramp it down. that means it's time to simplify. that means what we have is too dangerous to be trusted. >> what do you make of the irs scandal and the targeting of the tea party? why do you think it happened? do you think it's a couple rogue people at the bottom or part of the big government or something more sinister? >> i don't think it's a couple rogue people at the bottom. what sparked a lot of this was obamacare. a few years ago some groups started putting themselves together because of the fact they were afraid the federal government was about to get a lot bigger and a lot more expensive as a result of obamacare. they started seeing their minds.
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all of a sudden the ruling class in washington got scared and started retaliating before this movement could gain too much momentum. that's why this happened. it's no coincidence, greta, that the irs, which is about to become a lot more powerful because of obamacare, were threatened by these groups trying to undermine obamacare. >> i hear that some people who don't like the tea party groups thinks they are so different -- most of them have never been involved in politics before, it's an economic issue for them and they suddenly want to get to politics and come to it innocently not knowing how do you know and dirty politics can be. that's my experience. we had a man on the other night, a former commercial airline pilot, the first time he's been involved in politics and now he's under scrutiny by the irs. >> these are hardworking men and women that come from diverse
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backgrounds, many of whom who have never been involved in politics a single day in their lives and they are concerned about their government. they have one concern in common, which is the federal government has gotten too big and too expensive. they want to do something about it and all of a sudden they find themselves the target of government retaliation of the nastiest sort. this ought to scare any of us, regardless of your particular ideology. this ought to bother you because today it's retaliation against a government critic on the right. tomorrow it could be against a government critic on the left. we aren't safe until we restrict the government from doing this sort of thing. >> what do you think is going to happen to obamacare, and the fact so much of it is run by the hss and irs. most of it is managed by that. what do you foresee something now that the irs is under such incredible scrutiny and people are worried the irs will be in their medical problems and don't
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want the irs anywhere near them? >> this hasn't been a good week for the president of the united states or for obamacare. i think you will continue to see a lot more pieces of legislation put forward to try to undermine obamacare, to try to weaken it. we heard from congressman a few minutes ago about a bill he introduced. i've talked about senate bill 516 that i introduced which is very simple. it's one page. it simply says that the individual man date provision in obamacare shall not be construed as imposing tax or about congress's power to tax. if this were to pass it would completely undue what the supreme court tried to do last summer which was to rewrite obamacare not once, but twice to try to save it. i think you will see a lot more people calling for the demise of obamacare in one form or another. >> here's my prediction. you can pass as many bills as
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you want until you are blue in the face and in the senate you can do whatever you want until you are blue in the face but i think the biggest problem obamacare has is it needs to get funded. they around going to get the extra irs agents, they aren't going to get what they need to implement it. think that's where the obamacare is going to have it. not all the bills you guys pass to repeal it. both houses aren't on line with it and the president won't sign that. do you disagree with me? >> you may be right but it is part what have helps us communicate the message, it's part what have helps bull the public support, to do what you are describing. some of it might be met with some of what we've already seen from the department of health and human services where congress refuses to appropriate certain funds that they want in order to, let's say, advertise obamacare or in order to publicly size -- size it. so they try to extort money from companies within the industry
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that they regulate. >> that is another whole problem. and senator lamar alexander is all over that one. interesting issue. we will bring you back to talk about it as it perk plates through the system. thank you, senator. >> thank you, greta. >> straight ahead, the benghazi e-mails. we showed you who was in the 100 pages the white house released but where are the other 25,000 pages? that's the number of pages the republicans say the white house is beholding. and donald rumsfeld says the white house is facing the perfect storm, three candles. so what would donald rumsfeld tell president obama to to do? he's here to tell you. and wait until you hear what this team calls themselves. right now you tell us what do you think the irs softball team should be? ♪ the joint is jumpin'
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>> republican lawmakers are hot under the collar demanding more. last night the white house releasing 100 pages of e-mails on benghazi. but what about the 25,000 pages the white house has not released? congressman jason chaffetz
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saying last night the obama administration should release all the documents, not just the ones they hand pick. steve hayes joins us. nice to see you, steve. >> how are you? >> very good. what about the 25,000 pages that congressman jason chaffetz told us with? do they exist and who has seen them? >> i'm not sure of the exact number, there there are certainly a lot of documents that we haven't yet seen and a lot of documents that i think the obama administration should turn over. i would include in those the intelligence -- some of the intelligence reports about benghazi in the months leading up to the attacks on september 11th there of last year. i would suggest that we see some of the intelligence that came in immediatelafter those attacks. even if it needs to be heavily redacted. i would suggest that we could see redacted copies of some of the transcripts of survivors, interviews of survivors that might be able to shed some more light on what was happening in benghazi at the time and what
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happened in the aftermath. there are so many things we additional information about what happened and what was told to the american people afterwards, think think it would be good to see it. >> do the members of congress have access to the list of people who were there on the ground? i mean i hear some dispute they want the names of those people. do they know who they are? you shake your head no. >> no, they don't. some of them, i think they have -- they have been in contact, some members of congress on the republican side have been in contact with some of the survivors. but there are a good number of survivors for whom they do not have names and do not have contact. >> is there a legitimate reason for the sort of cat and mouse game between the white house and congress? i would think if the white house wants to get this monkey off its back that it would turn over the information, let everybody go through it and let the cards land where they may but instead there is these little games going on. >> the white house has said from the beginning they want to tell
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the whole story, but they have been playing games all along about telling the whole story. remember the reason that we even had access to these e-mails is because there was sort of a handshake deal after a long series of negotiations with republicans on the senate intelligence committee about whether john brennan was going to be considered for a nomination. there were threats of hold on the brennan administration and as part of sort of a handshake deal the white house agreed to provide these to members of congress on a temporary basis, short term basis, they can look at them, they can take notes but they couldn't keep them. it was only that and after the house republicans wrote up a report based in part on what they have nine some of the e-mails the white house relented and said we will show you all of this because there were so many questions. we have answered some questions as a result of seeing the e-mails and that's important but there is a lot of things we haven't had answers to. particularly about how the movie, the film became a central part of the story that the administration sold to the
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american public. >> we will keep pushing for that. steve, thank you. >> thanks, greta. >> we are learning breaking news about the irs. tomorrow the first congressional hearing on the scandal and tonight james rosen just obtained a six page memo will joseph grant's testimony. go to gretawire.com to see the entire thing. we are posting what he said. coming up, former defense secretary donald rumsfeld, benghazi, the irs and the doj's secret record seizure. what would rumsfeld tell the president to do about all those scandals? that's next. and the hits keep coming from the irs. even the softball team is taking fire but wait until you hear what the team's name is. but first what do you think i'm phyllis and i have diabetic nerve pain.
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>> former secretary of defense donald rumsfeld says the obama
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administration is facing the perfect storm. earlier tonight we spoke with secretary rumsfeld about all the latest scandals. his advice to the president and his brand new book "rumsfeld rules." nice to see you, sir. >> thank you. >> you have a brand new book, rumsfeld rules. you told me about it the last time i spoke to you. >> it's been fun. i enjoy doing it. i started collecting those rules as a youngster and i have been doing it for just under 80 years. >> in looking at the rules, i'm thinking in light of what's going on for the present we have the a.p. scandal, we have benghazi we have the irs. what rule do you think that people should take a look at in your book? what should be a good rule for him. >> when i was a navy pilot i was getting trained in a little airplane, a prop plane called an fmj and the manual said if you are lost what you do is climb, get altitude, conserve, save your fuel, lean it out and
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confess. get on the radio and say i need help. that's what the white house needs to do. they have the perfect storm going on. you know i was chief of staff for president ford right after the nixon resignation and the reservoir of trust had been drained. that's what this administration is going to have to watch out for. you do lead through persuasion and you can't persuade if people aren't trusting. if incrementally the trust goes because of this or that or someone speaks too soon or they say something that turns out not to be ground fact, ground truth, why, it is cumulative. it can be a problem. >> it's odd. it sort of all happened at once. they say things happen in threes but all of a sudden it's like the president woke up one day and all three problems were there in front of him. >> the other, of course, washington rule is that the
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coverup is always worse than the event, and the second rule is no one remembers the first rule. so if someone says something that turns out not to be so, people then think it's a coverup and they use the word coverup. and the trust factor is so important for a political leader. >> you used the term coverup. let's go back to benghazi. do you suspect that that sort of a coverup, not the sort of time leading up to whether or not we should have had more security, i think everyone agrees we should have had more security at benghazi, and we had the heat of the moment when the benghazi facility is under attack. then we have what happened afterwards with the video and the statements by ambassador rice. was that a coverup? >> i don't know how you can call it anything else. i say that because if the president then goes to the u.n. and talks to people about a u ever youtube video as being part
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of the problem or the problem, and if mrs. clinton goes to the families of the people who were killed and says we are going to get the person who did that youtube video, days, many days after everyone who had anything to do with it knew that these people were well-armed, that there had been warnings about attacks, that the british had pulled their people out, and that it was certainly -- they were so well-armed it could not be a spontaneous demonstration. i don't know what else anyone can call it other than hope prevailing over truth. i mean, i think they really wanted to support the narrative that was out there that the problem with terrorism was down, that osama bin laden was dead, and they don't want to talk about it for some reason. i don't see how you can win anything lake the cold war, and
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the problem against terrorists is much more like the cold war than it is like world war 1 or world war ii or korea. we have to complete i had logically against the people who are funding and recruit asking training people to go out and kill innocent men, women and children. if you are unwilling to identify them and call exactly what it is, a radical islam and knock the whole of religion, and that's what people are worried about, they are afraid they will see it against religion. >> to what end, though, would the administration not want to acknowledge the fact that there is terrorism out there? i mean, is it a political issue? i think it's not a political issue but i may be dead wrong. i think the american people know the world is dangerous. but to what end would they even want to cover it up? >> the only thing i can think is during the campaign he was campaigning on the basis they
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had done a great job against terrorism and that osama bin laden was dead and terrorism was town. why else would you call what happened at fort hood workplace violence when it was clearly a person who was killing because he believed that that was what he should do. he was guided by a radical theology. >> coming up, much more events. donald rumsfeld. of the three scandals rocking the white house, which does he say strikes the most fear in americans? americans? he answers that question i want to make things more secure.
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>> now more with former secretary of defense donald rumsfeld. >> the irs scandal, do you think we are consumed with this just the next few days and it will
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blow or is this a bigger cancer for the administration? >> only time will tell. but of the three problems, i think this one strikes so much at what america isn't and what americans don't want and what americans would fear, a government that is well-funded and well-staffed that turns against them. that is something that is so fundamentally wrong. i think that it is a big, big issue. >> big, big issue for all of us, but is it a big, big issue for the president? a big bureaucracy and is there any way you see he has any sort of responsibility for it other than the buck stops here on the president? >> sure, he has a responsibility for it. i mean, what a leader does is when something like that happens, he -- the person he fired, quote, unquote, was leaving in a month. he submitted his resignation early. but when you -- first of all, those people obviously did what
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they did believing that it was -- the administration was comfortable with it ness you don't think it was rogue people being obnoxious and stepping on people's rights and being awful? you think it's part of a culture? >> who knows but clearly they thought it was okay and it isn't okay. it's not only not okay, it really strikes at everything that americans don't want, a government that turns against them. we will see, but if things keep popping up around the country, this person will go on television and say now that i see what's happening, i understand what happened to me. and they will have a report that they tried to do it. i heard a man who made a contribution to romney who was called in and ended up spending $60,000 for lawyers trying to defend himself against the irs. and he hadn't done anything wrong. and harassment by government is something we understand happens in other countries.
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it used to happen here. i mean, in cities more and some states. but it is a terrible, terrible thing. and so fundamentally what we believe in. we will see how many people, how many organizations will pop up and say, well, i thought maybe everybody had to wait a year to get approved. and they will pop up and we will see them on television, we will see them in newspapers and we will know the extent to which this was a problem. my understanding was that it wasn't just some local fellow in ohio, that that office was the office that had the lead responsibility for managing and approving or disapproving all of the requests in that particular category. >> if i were investigating, i would compare to see how the other side of the political spectrum were treated. did they get jerked around as much? did they have to wait along. that's very telling. very telling. >> yep. >> the president's response. you brought that up. >> one other thing buff go on. >> yeah. >> i think that it may have a
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ripple effect on obamacare because obamacare is to be monitored and managed by that same organization, the internal revenue service. people are frightened of the certainly revenue service because of the intrusiveness of it because of what they are doing with their money and how they do it. >> so what's going to help? >> i don't know. i think what will happen is if that was going on, it's possible that more was going on and it will pop up over a period, and it will come out over a period of time. people will say i now understand what happened to me. and to the extent that happens, it won't go away probably. >> what happens to obamacare, anything since its being administered by the irs? >> i think so. i cannot imagine that people will want that organization, the irs, to be the deciding
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institution that would look at healthcare and your healthcare circumstantial and how you spend your healthcare dollars and what's the nature you are of your insurance and what you are spending those dollars on. i can't imagine that there won't be some change in that. >> we turn to the a.p.. obviously 23459 security and important issues about leaks but now the controversial of the breadth and secrecy of the seizure. your thoughts about it. >> when i her the attorney general say he's been in and out of this business for a decade or two, and in his judgment this ranked one, two or three in the most serious breach of security he's ever seen. i said to myself, i don't know. i don't know what i think about it. it's conceivable to me that there could be something that would be so serious that the government might do something.
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now, what might they have done? one way to do it is to go to the leadership in congress and sit down. that's been done before on very important matters. another way to do it would be to go to -- see if they have the ability to look at something or to take a group of congressional leaders together and say here's something, we are going to have to do something we don't want to do. i've been in the executive branch for an awful lot of years and i've never seen anything like that. >> the ceo or the president issued a statement and he mentioned when the a.p. first had the story they consult the the administration and they held the story until it seemed to me to be some sort of agreement that the danger had passed. >> i didn't know that. >> that's what the last paragraph. so that's the sort of curious thing, the give and take that i don't understand with the administration. it seemed like they were
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the steelers, they're trying to steal the bases, call the team the intimidators. what is the real team name? the answer, team cornan soft ball team scheduled to play the irs team friday. the cheetahs. yes, the team is called the cheetahs. the cheetahs? i mean what else can you say about that? well, now, you can hash tag it out, follow me on gretawire. coming up, a new controversy but don't call the un this, is [ engine sputters ] [ dennis ] allstate wants everyone to be protected on the road. whether you're an allstate customer or not. all you have to do is call. [ female announcer ] call and sign up for good hands roadside assistance today. [ dennis ] are you in good hands?
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welcome back. how was london? [ female announcer ] when people talk, great things happen. >> greta: the always controversial president of iran getting into trouble. what did he do this time? here is jay leno. >> mahmoud ahmadinejad now faces up to 74 lashes for violating election rules in
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iran. he should get lashes for wearing that stupid members only jacket he wore in the 80s. >> greta: before we go if you've had problems with the irs go to are all over it on fb. this is a fox news alert. we just learned that a second top official at the irs is going to leave amid the growing scandal. internal agency memo says joseph grant, commissioner of the tax exempt and government entities division will retire on june 3rd, and the point is he will retire on june 3rd. bob beckle, dana freen know, it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." benghazi, the irs, the ap phone scandals. president obama is knee deep in three scandals that threaten his

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